Interview with Albin Kurti, a leader of the Students
Independent Union in Pristina, Kosova
(in former Yugoslavia). The interview was
conducted by David hartsough, Director of
Peaceworkers in San Francisco while he was visiting
Kosova in mid October.
Q. Tell me who you are and what position you play
in the student movement and what you
do.
1. I am Albin Kurti, and I am 22. I am a student
in the faculty of Electrotechnics, in the
branch: Telecommunications and computer science.
Since June of this year I'm a member
of the presidency of Students' Independent Union
of the University of Prishtina (SIU UP),
and now during the preparations and during the
protests I am the spokesman (for public
relations) for our students' organization and
for Organization Council too, where I am a
member together with 4 other students.
Q. Please give me a little background about what
is happening here in Kosova with the
schools and the university.
2. In the year 1989, two years after Milosevic
became the president of Serbia, he
abolished Kosova's autonomy. In that year and
also in 1990, all around Kosova there were
a lot of demonstrations against the Serbian regime,
which was also firing the workers from
their factories, doctors and nurses from hospitals,
and forcing Albanian young people to go
in the Serbian army which was fighting in the
war in Croatia.
In 1991 about 27,000 students, 1,000 professors
and 200 administrative workers were
expelled from University buildings in Pristina.
So in that year the University, all the high
schools and even some of the primary schools
were closed to all Albanians, and they are
still closed for us. In those buildings now only
Serbian pupils and students are learning and
studying, even though Serbians here are less
than 10% and Albanians are 90% of the
population in Kosova.
Since the year 1991 the activities of our University
and also all the high schools and some
of the elementary (primary) schools, are continuing
in private houses in very bad
conditions. Now we have about 23,000 students
in our University and they are in 14
faculties and 7 high schools (two year colleges)
which are in Prishtina and also in six other
towns of Kosova. During these six years Albanian
pupils and students have lived under
terror and repression, and a lot of times they
have been beaten, arrested or killed by
Serbian police without any cause. Now we can't
wait any longer and be patient because
this kind of situation is unacceptable.
Q. What are the goals of the student movement?
3. On August 10 of this year we began the initiative
to organize peaceful protests with only
one demand: freeing of our university buildings
and premises. After a lot of working with
students and meetings with different political
parties, non-governmental organizations, and
important personalities and hearing their
suggestions, we decided that we should
constitute an Organization Council for
protests only on the level of our University. That
council has 9 members (5 students + 4 professors).
We also constituted organization sub-
councils on the level of the faculties and high
schools, and each of them has 5 members
(3 students + 2 professors). Also we have commissions
for technical problems (slogans,
posters etc.), for information service, our own
monitoring people who are also students,
and also we have commissions for medical help
(first aid etc.) which is constituted from
students and professors of the Medical faculty.
So we are now very strongly decided not only
for peaceful, nonviolent protests but also
that these protests are only students and faculty
of the university. On September 15 we
made our platform for the protests and now we
also have our own 11 main principles and
rules for students who will participate in peaceful,
nonviolent, students' protests. I'm going
to repeat once more that our only demand is:
freeing of our university buildings. We
consider that this is only a technical problem,
so our demand as our students' organization
is nonpolitical.
Q. What are you doing to achieve your goals?
4. We are doing a lot of preparing to maintain
a high level of organization so we can make
and control all the time our protests. In this
way we became a real students' movement,
with a great hope that with a lot of peaceful,
nonviolent students' protests, we can organize
great pressure on the Serbian regime, and in
that way, get back in our university buildings.
Q. Tell me about your demonstration Oct.1. What happened?
5. Without taking into account the suggestions
and warnings of foreign high diplomats that
we should postpone the protests until October,
15 we decided that we would begin our
demonstrtions on October 1 as we had planned
because by the Law of our University,
October 1 is the day when the academic year begins.
On October 1 we organized peaceful, nonviolent
protests in Prishtina and also in 6
other towns: Mitrovica, Peja, Gjakova, Prizren,
Ferizaj and Gjilan. We planned to hold a
march in which students and professors of our
University would be dressed in white shirts,
and all of them were wearing badges on which
was the emblem of the University of
Prishtina and the name of the faculty to which
student belonged. Albanian people were
supporting us by staying on the sidewalks along
the planned route of our march and being
all the time quite and silent. Students were
holding up in the air banners with the approved
slogans including "PeacefulFreeing of University
Buildings and Premises, Hello Europe,
Where Are You?, and Breath as we do! Students".
There was no shouting, yelling or
whistling from our side.
After we marched about 300 meters from the place
that we gathered, a large police force
blocked the road. We were standing there about
one hour and then a police tank started
to move forward with the appaarent intention
to drive over us because we were about only
3 or 4 meters away from the tank and from the
cordon of the police forces. As we planned
ahead of time, all the students and professors
sat down on the road as an act of
nonviolent resistance. We the Organization Council
and also the Rector of our University
Professor Dr. Ejup Statovci who is also a member
of the Organization Council, were on
the first line of the march and we were sitting
for only few seconds and then, were beaten
and arrested.
Also I want to add that the
police attacked us without giving us any kind of prior warning
or ultimatum. They took us to the police station,
beat us again and we were interrogated
for about two hours. Afterward they freed
us, but they dispersed the other students, using
police clubs, tear gas, and a lot of brutal violence.
There was no provocation from our side.
That day in Kosova were more than 500 people
were injured, mostly students.
Q. Tell me about your commitment to active nonviolence
and nonviolent discipline. How
did you come to that commitment?
6. In our protests we have been nonviolent,
even when the police attacked us. Also we
had our monitoring people with red ribbons on
their arms, and people whose duty was to
observe the situation and they were wearing blue
ribbons. They have done an excellent
job. All the students and professors are respecting
the decisions of the Organization
Council and the monitoring people. Also the nonviolent
guidelines are very helpful.
Q. How are students and others here in Kosova
feeling about the student movement so
far?
7. The students are feeling strong and committed
to the nonviolent way to achieve our
demands. We also have a great sympathy from our
people here and from the international
public opinion.
Q. What are your movement's plans for the future?
8. We will continue with our peaceful, nonviolent,
students' protests, until we achieve our
goals.
Q. What message would you like to share with people
in the international community about
the situation here and about your movement?
9. Our message is that we believe
that nonviolent protests and nonviolent movements
are the greatest invention of this century, and
that we hope our protest will be supported
by the international community.
Q. What kind of support can people in other parts
of the world give to the student
nonviolent movement here?
10. The best thing would be if different organizations,
universitites, and associations would
send their representatives to visit us in Kosova.
In that way they can see with their own
eyes our commitment to nonviolence and
our demand for respect for our basic human
rights. In addition, it would be good if all
the people who want to help us could help educate
others in their countries about our situation
and our nonviolent movement. They can send
us letters of support, organize teach ins, seminars,
and meetings about Kosova's problem
and our protests. Also there are many ways they
can show solidarity with us without
coming in Kosova like for example: sending letters
to different government officials in their
countries requesting that they support us.
Q. Are you interested in students and others from
other countries coming to support your
movement?
11. During the preparations for the last protest
on October 29, we met with a lot of
students' organizations and we received a lot
of support letters from them. Some students,
for example in Austria, organized protests
in their countries to show solidarity with us. If
others around the world show their support for
us, it will be better for us.
Q. What kind of things can people who come here to support do?
12. They can meet both with student leaders and
with ordinary students, talk with them
and we can organize meetings and seminars with
them. Also they can inform themselves
about our situation and make pressure on the
regime which is applying police repression
against us.
Q. How did you keep such strong nonviolent spirit and discipline in your action?
13. We are keeping a strong nonviolent spirit
and discipline because we are spending a lot
of time on preparations, we have a high level
of organization, we are commited to
nonviolence and we respect our nonviolent
guidelines, we organize a lot of gatherings
and meetings with students.
Q. What has motivated you personally to
get involved in this movement and tell me more
about your interest in nonviolence.
14. Resisting oppression without fighting back,
gathering all the people and creating a
sense of community which is built in peace, and
also maintaining nonviolence even in the
face of police violence are some of the elements
which attracted me to think that with the
use of nonviolence, we can achieve a lot. Recently
thanks to our friend, David Hartsough
from the US, we gathered a lot of books about
nonviolence and some videos with which
we are starting a nonviolence library which will
be available for all students.
Q. Anything else you would like to say?
15. It is important to create a mechanism
which will maintain nonviolent resistance and in
that way create the rythm for organizing nonviolent
protests until the university is open for
all students. This is the main purpose of our
nonviolent movement.
Q. Why did you and the other students decide on
nonviolent action as a means to reopen
the university to all students?
16. We, Albanian students are not asking that
when we get back to our university
buildings, the Serbian students should leave.
On the contrary, we are requesting that this
basic human right of education which is guaranteed
with international acts and
conventions, be respected for all the people
and nationalities in Kosova. Between war and
giving up is a great space with a large number
of possibilities of how to win, and the
biggest one is building a nonviolent, peaceful
movement.
For more information, see our web site Students'
Protests in Kosova: http://www.alb-
net.com. Live photoes from protests of
October 29 are on: www.dardania.com. Letters of
support to the students in Kosova can be sent
to: upsup@albanian.com and letters of
protest can be sent to President Slobodan Milosevic
at Tolstoyeva 33, 11,000 Belgrade,
Yugoslavia.
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